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The following charts are for an quick UPDATE interview of George Slezak by Ike Iossif on April 26. The previous interview of George Slezak by Ike Iossif of Market Views .TV on April 12, 2008 is below.  

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The following chart is from my SPECIAL DAILY update of the commodity market condition at Commodity Index Timing .com, where I am tracking the day by day unfolding of the commodity market top pattern compared to the stock market top pattern of 1929 and 1987.

The second chart below is also from my SPECIAL DAILY update focusing on GOLD AND SILVER.

UPDATE CHART 1

 

UPDATE CHART 2

The above chart comparison of Gold and Silver to the stock market crash pattern of 1929 and 1987 suggest we should all be on special alert for a chaotic decline in commodities in the coming week or two!

Good luck and good trading!

George

 

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The following charts are for reference to the interview of George Slezak by Ike Iossif of Market Views .TV on April 12, 2008.  

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"Could we have a 1929 stock market type decline in the commodity indexes?" 

In my web site, www. Commitments of Traders .com, (shortcut www.cot1.com ) I prepare a table of the net commercial positions in the major commodities and highlight the net positions when they are at or near the largest net short position in the last one, three, or five years. Of the 43 markets covered in the weekly summary, 10 are for interest rates and stock indexes. Of the remaining 33 markets covered, since the beginning of the year, 19 have had a highlight for the having near the largest net commercial short in the last one, three or five year period.

Here is a recent 12 week summary of net commercial positions from the Commitments of Traders .com  web site.

DISPLAY 1.

Considering that the Commodity Index Trader longs (hedging related to commodity indexes) are reflected in these net commercial positions, the heavy net commercial short positions are truly quite substantial!

The CFTC releases their "Supplemental COT Report" which breaks out the Commodity Index Trader (CIT) positions from the net commercial positions in just 12 of the agricultural markets. I have accumulated the totals of the net positions in the CIT Report for the 12 agricultural commodities and plotted the positions over the following weekly chart of the CRB. 

I have been concerned about the effect of the substantial investment in the commodity index funds having the effect of of putting excessive investment demand on commodities generally produced for consumption. I have warned that if the excessive demand ever wanes or reverses, the consumption demand will not be able to absorb the investment liquidation supply. 

My recommendation has been to view the total CIT line (in blue below) as representative of commodity index accumulation or liquidation. I believe the falling blue line in the following chart could suggest the beginnings of liquidation in the commodity index investment funds.

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In the chart at the left, the red line is the accumulated net commercial positions, the green line is the accumulated large non commercial traders, and the yellow line is the accumulated small account trader totals, for the 12 agricultural markets covered by the supplemental report plotted over the weekly chart of the CRB index.

 

 

Generally, in individual commodity markets, when I have a near one, three, or five year record net commercial short position in a commodity, I then go to the chart of the commodity and look for "technical" signs of a change in trend to the direction of the net commercial position. If one sets up, I might recommend a short position with a stop above the recent trend high.

The long term chart of the CCI, the Continuous Commodity Index (the old equal weighted CRB Index) in the following chart (in red) shows a bubble pattern very much like the stock market chart of the 1920s.

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Recently, in the last few years, the same group of geniuses that securitized plain vanilla mortgages, put their skills to work on commodities and securitized commodity trading under the concept that commodities were a non correlated asset class and packaged investment products and registered them on the stock exchanges and offered them for investment in mutual funds under the Investment Act of 1940. So for the last few years, people have been investing in "commodities" without having any understanding of the risks of commodities. In fact, they are being told that commodities are a non correlated asset class and investment in commodities will actually reduce the overall risk of a balanced portfolio!

I actually had a discussion about the risks of commodities recently with a portfolio manager at a regional bank. This gentleman explained to me that over the last 30 years the returns of the CRB index have shown non-correlated returns to the stock market. He explained that on a pro forma basis an allocation to commodities as an index investment increased returns and reduced the volatility of a portfolio over the past 30 years!

The chart at the right includes the CRB index for the last 30 years. I wonder if he has updated his study of the CRB to reflect the last few years. Is he still adding new investment funds to the asset class under the "story" that it is a non correlated asset class? If he is, do you really think he is correctly describing the risks? Will the liquidation of the commodity index funds go into an extended decline because of the eventual re study of the idea of commodities as a non correlated asset class?

 

In my related web site "Commodity Index Timing .com," (shortcut www.cit1.com ) I have moved to a sell signal on the commodity indexes on the simple signal of when the indexes traded below the two week low, with a stop recommended above the recent highs. Now that a few more weeks of data have filled in since the commodity index market top, a familiar market top pattern is developing.

The following chart compares the pattern of the daily chart of the current Continuous Commodity Index (in red ) to the pattern of the daily chart of the Dow Jones Industrial Average in 1929 and in 1987. 

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I set the probability of the pattern continuing to match over the next 30 days at about 1 out of 30.

But, maybe, if the comparison continues to match up for another week or two, the possibility of a substantial decline in the commodity indexes near the end of April could increase.

For the next few weeks I will be updating DAILY the above charts in my web site "Commodity Index Timing .com," (shortcut www.cit1.com )

The chart below is a comparison of the CCI in 2005 to the 1929 stock market top showing the failure of the CCI to follow the pattern of 1929.

The chart below is a comparison of the CCI in 1988 to the 1929 stock market top showing the failure of the CCI to follow the pattern of 1929.

Pattern comparisons of substantially different markets, like the above stock indexes compared to the commodity indexes above are interesting, but , as shown in the two small charts above at the right, have very little historical precedent. True, the current pattern matches quite closely over the past 30 calendar days, but at any point forward, the patterns could vary substantially. Accordingly, at this point, I set the probability of the pattern continuing to match over the next 30 days at about 1 out of 30. But, maybe, if the comparison continues to match up for another week or two, the possibility of a substantial decline in the commodity indexes near the end of April could increase.

Beginning this week, I will update the above comparison of the current CCI to the patterns of the stock market in 1929 and 1987 on a daily basis in my web site commentary at www. Commodity Index Timing .com that is available to subscribers. 

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Good luck and good trading!

George

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